Saturday, October 28, 2006

We don't torture

Apparently, when Cheney said that dunking people in water is "a no-brainer for me", he wasn't referring to waterboarding.

Honestly, how could anyone think that? It's not like waterboarding has ever been brought up in the context of "terrorist interrogations". Clearly the vice president was referring to the widely-used tactic of giving terrorists sponge baths during their stay at the pleasure spa of Guantanamo.

Sarcasm aside, what galls me more than this is the question the interviewer asked:
Q ... And terrorist interrogations and that debate is another example. And I've had people call and say, please, let the Vice President know that if it takes dunking a terrorist in water, we're all for it, if it saves American lives. Again, this debate seems a little silly given the threat we face, would you agree?

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Q Would you agree a dunk in water is a no-brainer if it can save lives?

What sycophantic nonsense. The idea that everyone being "dunk[ed] in water" is a terrorist is an absurd delusion on the part of people who think that America can do no wrong--clearly, since they're in Guantanamo, they're guilty of being terrorists. It's not like we're ever mistaken about these things.

And the idea that this can "save lives" is even more absurd. It's based on the fantasy scenario where we know that there's a plot against our lives--usually an imminent plot, where we know the exact time it will be carried out (twenty-four hours seems to be the standard deadline). We know exactly which group is perpetrating this plot. In fact we seem to know everything, except for one crucial piece of information (usually the location of a bomb) that we know with 100% certainty our torture victim has.

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