tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post3587648117437546812..comments2023-10-22T11:38:45.970-04:00Comments on Dead Racists Society: It's not often I get to use my "miscegenation" tag with my "politics" tagSkemonohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05740893771784746779noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-6199379910469557642008-02-22T01:34:00.000-05:002008-02-22T01:34:00.000-05:00I just think that in this day and age, the "Muslim...<I>I just think that in this day and age, the "Muslim" slur is going to be more effective. Who gives a shit about commies anymore? But Islamofascists are going to destroy our way of life!</I><BR/>Probably true. I mean, it's certainly true that the Red Scare doesn't really scare people so much anymore (at least not the youngsters). But also, there's the fact that the "Obama is a Muslim" fantasy has already become a media truth, whereas the "Obama is a Communist" fantasy is so far restricted to blog posts. I think.<BR/><BR/><I>You don't know what those Muslims might get up to, she said.</I><BR/>I have found numerous people on-line who point to a random verse plucked from the Qu'ran and insist that means that all Muslims are terrorists--and the ones that are "nice" or "moderate" are just being secretive, incognito, undercover, waiting for the perfect moment to strike. They're completely insane.<BR/><BR/><I>I think the bald faced prejudice against his name will be a factor in a significant part of the population.</I><BR/>I wish that weren't true, but you're probably right.<BR/><BR/><I>Doesn't matter that I'm a born-and-raised American, half-Wasp, liberal as anybody, married to a Jew - my name means I am associated with terrorists.</I><BR/>Oh dear. That's terrible.Skemonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740893771784746779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-65564833167228066722008-02-22T01:20:00.000-05:002008-02-22T01:20:00.000-05:00I just think that in this day and age, the "Muslim...I just think that in this day and age, the "Muslim" slur is going to be more effective. Who gives a shit about commies anymore? But Islamofascists are going to destroy our way of life!<BR/><BR/>One of my Lebanese cousins, who married a kindly but reactionary Lebanese doctor and lost the tolerance she learned at home, told me just the other day that she doesn't trust Obama because his father was Muslim. He probably is part of a secret plot. You don't know what those Muslims might get up to, she said. <BR/><BR/>I was disappointed to hear this from her, but I did no more than remind her that Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ and attends Sunday services regularly.<BR/><BR/>I think the bald faced prejudice against his name will be a factor in a significant part of the population. I am an Arab-American Christian; my father's church is older than the church of Rome. But our family name is Abu-Saba. Even here in the supposedly enlightened Bay Area, I have had people tell me that my name sounds like a terrorist name. Doesn't matter that I'm a born-and-raised American, half-Wasp, liberal as anybody, married to a Jew - my name means I am associated with terrorists.<BR/><BR/>Peee-yew.Leila Abu-Sabahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14161833022292457787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-68487478214792375042008-02-21T21:01:00.000-05:002008-02-21T21:01:00.000-05:00Antebellum Southerners believed, contradictorily, ...<I>Antebellum Southerners believed, contradictorily, that their slaves were contented and liked slavery, and that the end of slavery would lead to an all-out race war like the one in Haiti, ending with one race exterminating the other.</I><BR/>Very true. Some tried to come up with ad hoc theories that would get rid of the contradiction--such as the outside agitators I mention, or that free blacks were much more violent than docile slaves--but it doesn't really work well.<BR/><BR/><I>But for a long time Southerners insisted that it did lead to a black reign of terror, crime and rape against the hapless whites.</I><BR/>Also true. See, for example, <I>The Birth of a Nation</I>.<BR/><BR/><I>I will also point out that pro-racism propaganda has a way of undermining itself. Racists argued that only Communists favor racial equality. So what are black people to conclude? Obvious that Communists must be good people; they are the only ones who favor racial equality.</I><BR/>Which I believe did happen. Many blacks did join the Communist party because they were apparently the only ones who gave a damn.<BR/><BR/><I>Racists argued that the whole system of racial oppression was necessary to prevent interracial sex. That makes interracial sex very attractive -- it can overturn the whole racial system.</I><BR/>Which was, after all, the entire point. Interracial sex can overturn the whole racial system imposed by whites, which is why it had to be defended so staunchly.<BR/><BR/>But as you astutely allude to, there were indeed some blacks who took the actions of sleeping with white women to be a kind of rebelliousness, a blow against the white establishment.Skemonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740893771784746779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-55621433514494799082008-02-21T19:18:00.000-05:002008-02-21T19:18:00.000-05:00Antebellum Southerners believed, contradictorily, ...Antebellum Southerners believed, contradictorily, that their slaves were contented and <I>liked</I> slavery, and that the end of slavery would lead to an all-out race war like the one in Haiti, ending with one race exterminating the other. Huh? The end of slavery manifestly did not lead to an all-out race war. But for a long time Southerners insisted that it did lead to a black reign of terror, crime and rape against the hapless whites. I wonder if this view of the Reconstruction was sort of a toned-down version of their old fears.<BR/><BR/>I will also point out that pro-racism propaganda has a way of undermining itself. Racists argued that only Communists favor racial equality. So what are black people to conclude? Obvious that Communists must be good people; they are the only ones who favor racial equality. Racists argued that the whole system of racial oppression was necessary to prevent interracial sex. That makes interracial sex very attractive -- it can overturn the whole racial system.Essayist-Laywerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04888789551503637986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-67786704074639825002008-02-21T13:31:00.000-05:002008-02-21T13:31:00.000-05:00in the mid to late 19th century, it was often beli...<I>in the mid to late 19th century, it was often believed that the 'Moundbuilders' had been ancient Europeans driven out by savage Indians, thus legitimizing (etc.)</I><BR/>Really? That's not surprising, but I hadn't come across that before. Do you have any sources I could look at for that? It sounds fascinating.<BR/><BR/><I>Great Zimbabwe in then-Rhodesia, with the white government insisted couldn't have been built by black people</I><BR/>Or the Empire of Kush, which people also insisted couldn't have been built by black people (see <A HREF="http://skemono.blogspot.com/2008/02/friday-dead-racist-blogging-yes-nilotic.html" REL="nofollow">this post</A>).Skemonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740893771784746779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-91321268648156199592008-02-21T13:16:00.000-05:002008-02-21T13:16:00.000-05:00"The Rabbits' Wedding"Oooh, bunnies! I have to ge..."<I>The Rabbits' Wedding</I>"<BR/><BR/>Oooh, bunnies! I have to get a copy of that . . .<BR/><BR/>Re: the . . . <I>special</I> . . . header image: what's interesting is that it kinda echoes racist ideas both about Native American burial/temple mounds across the Eastern U.S. (in the mid to late 19th century, it was often believed that the 'Moundbuilders' had been ancient Europeans driven out by savage Indians, thus legitimizing (etc.) - modern archaeology shot this one down starting in 1894), and Great Zimbabwe in then-Rhodesia, with the white government insisted couldn't have been built by black people (which had been smacked down hard by Gertrude Caton-Thompson back in 1929).<BR/><BR/>One wonders when this theme will appear on the Corner?Dan S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10274772087850836689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-51677616263462940352008-02-20T19:15:00.000-05:002008-02-20T19:15:00.000-05:00Bilbo as much as admitted that it's just a case of...<I>Bilbo as much as admitted that it's just a case of labeling them communists</I> because <I>they oppose racial barriers.</I><BR/>Pretty much. Of course, there was a small grain of truth to it--some blacks did join the communist party because, as I mentioned, it was the only party that was really reaching out to them. So he could also point to those and insist that any black person who wanted freedom was a Communist, or Communist-influenced.Skemonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740893771784746779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-55521981091982307822008-02-20T18:47:00.000-05:002008-02-20T18:47:00.000-05:00"The destruction of all racial barriers is one of ..."The destruction of all racial barriers is one of the chief aims of those in the United States who are branded as communists."<BR/><BR/>Hilarious--Bilbo was right, but the key phrase is "branded as communists." Not, "<I>are</I> communists." Bilbo as much as admitted that it's just a case of labeling them communists <I>because</I> they oppose racial barriers.James Hanleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18431950784819780004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-53872687294294088602008-02-20T17:58:00.000-05:002008-02-20T17:58:00.000-05:00Only five cents? Man, that really is a cheap accu...Only five cents? Man, that really <I>is</I> a cheap accusation of racism.Skemonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740893771784746779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6787749441498296444.post-79449051507197497432008-02-20T17:38:00.000-05:002008-02-20T17:38:00.000-05:00"Before readers level cheap accusations of racism...."Before readers level cheap accusations of racism..."<BR/><BR/>Too late. I hereby accuse this jerk of racism. Gimme five cents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com